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Post by jayde on Jul 22, 2015 14:22:58 GMT
Hi all
Just out of interest I was wondering what help and support you all feel is needed for someone to succeed on a long journey of weightloss. Is there something which you think would be good but currently does not exist?
I am thinking of researching how charity and voluntary organisation can support people on a journey of weightloss in the best possible way and would just be interested to know if this is worth it! X
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Post by lostinarnia on Jul 22, 2015 15:25:45 GMT
I think that this is a great question Jayde!
I honestly believe having emotional support is vital either though going to a specific weight loss, truly supportive friends and family or wonderful forums like this.
As for the things that may not exist right now - perhaps more psychological support for people who are overweight / obese and teaching the general population that people do not necessarily become overweight because of pure greed but maybe it is because of drive to harm themselves, lack of self esteem and not believing that they are worthy of anything more.
Thank you again for posting this Jayde, it has been very thought provoking.
Take gentle care Lucy xx
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Post by jayde on Jul 23, 2015 11:51:16 GMT
Thanks for you response. I agree with all that Would like to hear from more of you if you would like to comment! X
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Post by sweetierufus on Jul 24, 2015 17:18:24 GMT
Very thought provoking. I agree with all lostinnarnia has said. My weight issues started when father diagnosed with cancer and I used food as a comfort. Unfortunately after the death of both my parents it only got worse. Now its become a crutch whenever Im stressed I turn to food. Once in a binge and guilt cycle I can't seem to stop.
I definitely agree there's a lot of judgement about weight. That is laziness and greed. If you having an eating disorder where you restrict food ie anorexia etc. There's a lot of psychological support from nhs and sympathy. But on other end of spectrum there's no support and don't think any doctors would take it seriously. The just tell you to eat less and exercise more. I cant imagine they just saying to an anorexic, just eat more.
I'm not trying to trivialise anorexia. It's an awful disorder I just used it as an example.
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paulb
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Post by paulb on Jul 30, 2015 23:56:06 GMT
Hi Jayde. I know organisations like Overeaters Anonymous offer a buddy system where when you are about to crack you contact your buddy and they offer support so you can get that extra distraction step. That is often all that is needed to get past the crisis. Sure I've seen something on a board where people can post when they are triggered and get support. A place to vent or just post when a bit down. It needs careful handling would only take one person posting you are just not trying hard enough or belittling your experience and would cause more harm than good. If I would of had someone to talk to 30 mins ago wouldn't of ordered two 14" pizzas, burger and chips, pop and cake Am not even really hungry just had a crappy day and not dealt with things well enough to go to sleep. Should of got my diary out and wrote about it or maybe exercise until exhausted but meh! Sometimes when you are alone your crappy food habit offers itself as 1st choice problem solution and you opt for it. Anyway hope everyone else doing better than me. -The medical side of things that I experienced was : 1st got sent to weight management and some fitness and diet group. Gave practical advice and group exercises once a week. Was ok but I know how to exercise and what foods are healthy. I saw numerous nutritionists. All were pretty supportive and gave good basic advice. Then I got referred to the E.D.S. I had a dietitian and a psychologist. Helped get me through really tough time. I truly think they saved my life. But I did not lose much weight as it is not there primary focus. Now my doctors want to cut out part of my stomach and if I don't nail this weight loss soon will be my only option. Also I have developed a psychotic reaction to pictures of the 'Eatwell' plate and I pity the next person that tries to show me that My Dad keeps telling me its easy just eat less and exercise more. I tell him he would make an awesome football coach - just score more goals than the other side. Genius. Thankfully he dosen't understand sarcasm. Anyway my food is here and I have no idea how I could even think I could eat so much but the demon in my stomach is itching to give it a go Am rambling now as well so goodnight all.
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Post by jayde on Jul 31, 2015 18:48:07 GMT
Thanks for the replies
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Post by Nanny Doreen on Aug 6, 2015 10:18:17 GMT
My brother used to go to Overeaters Anonymous, He said the talking really helped him for a while however stopped going after 6 months. If only it was to eat less and exercise more. If only it was what are the right things to eat. I used to be able to eat anything until I had my appendix out 50yrs ago. Apparently having an op can change things. I think it is maybe some kind of eating disorder. I have had `diet pills` - they were a good crutch for a while, have also had hypnotism another good crutch for a while. Unfortunately not having an empty feeling in tummy does not mean you don`t eat. I don`t need to be hungry to eat. I like to eat food. It calls me from the fridge, the cupboard and in the shops. Why do I sometimes binge and eat cakes and biscuits and chocolate even when I am telling myself not to. If I knew the answer to that I would be a millionaire. I can walk to the local Co-op and on the way am trying to decide whether to have a cake or a bar of chocolate. Talking to myself but knowing before I get there whether or not I will. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don`t. I wish I knew the answer but all I/we can do is try our best and don`t beat ourselves up - try and get back to it on the next meal. I hope that does not sound too defeatist it is not meant to. It is just how I see and feel this eating lark and why it takes me so long to get nearer to where I would like to be. Thanks for reading.
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Post by chezz on Oct 18, 2015 19:09:58 GMT
hi jayde i feel if there was more places for people to get help free it would help alot in a big way x
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Post by jayde on Oct 30, 2015 14:12:38 GMT
Thanks for all the replies I am going to be doing some research on obesity and I'm hoping to propose some helpful strategies for organisations like churches to offer free support. I have felt so lost over the years and all the diet clubs in the world don't seem to provide the pastoral care that I think would help me in the long run. I think there is so much shame attached to being fat that we can end up with so many emotional issues it exacerbates the whole situation. We should all feel worth and loved no matter what battle we are facing, and I'm sure if we have pastoral support then it is easier to overcome the blips in the road. X
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Post by phoenixx137 on Nov 23, 2015 9:10:07 GMT
hi jayde i feel if there was more places for people to get help free it would help alot in a big way x
I think that too, but apparently (according to my dad who is a doctor) studies show people have more long-term success on plans like weight watchers and slimming world than free plans partly because of the psychology of 'If I'm paying for it, I'm going to do it'.... not sure how believing I am though!
I know this is an old thread but for me I think the biggest hurdle was/is intimidation. When your morbidly obese (or even just overweight having been morbidly obese and not yet leaving that mindspace) things like joining a gym or exercise classes are scary! You KNOW you'll be the biggest one there (even when your not), you won't be able to keep up and people will be making snide comments as you wobble and sweat and puff. Let alone if anyone sees you in a swimming costume. Even if its not true - for me the biggest challenge has always been overcoming that and taking those first steps.
I remember years ago watching a documentary about a weight loss camps in the US and the thing that struck me was that when these overweight kids and teens were there they were all in the same position so they could forget about feeling ashamed of their bodies and worried they'd be made fun of and just have fun trying new things and being active. So if I won the lotto I'd set up things -for- people who are significantly overweight. Even if that's just opening up my home gym (remember lotto win here, I totally would have a home gym and my own pool and personal trainer) and inviting a group of local people to come for free personal training group designed for those with a lot to lose.
Though I totally agree with the emotional side too
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Post by jayde on Nov 23, 2015 9:49:04 GMT
Morning Phoenix. I think that is a great answer and you are right. A place to go where you don't feel out of place would be ideal.
I had kit thought about the money being incentive. Personally I don't find it helps because money not something that drives me but I guess for many it would. So that's a great insight to have.
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Post by Angel72 on Nov 28, 2015 10:42:59 GMT
I've been overweight since 8 years old. First diet at ten and I battled on every diet going until I was 38 and lost 8 stone on lighter life. They did counselling sessions which really helped you understand why you overeat or emotionally binge like me and gave techniques to help. I got close to goal and stopped. Over next 5 years I went back up but I had a baby too. I've started exante now but use the same mental techniques from LL. I think a free support group of people in person would be a help but in such a busy life I love the forums support. Great post to get new ideas going.
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